VOTE for the GROUP BUYS you want to see each month in the new 3ZC STORE !!!!!!

[91300zxttkid]

actually thats not to bad, I may go with pistons and rods =) my spare block needs some loving =)
-George

[pbr87]

Rods & pistons *****!

[Twindragon]

Manifolds!!

[michaelsevilla]

VOTE FOR RODS AND PISTONS OR BE BANNED!!!


btw...what will be the sizes of them? just new rods and pistons?
that mod wouldn't hurt , makes motor stronger and faster!

btw jk bout the banned thing lol :D

[ARA300ZX]

why are people voting on floor mats, im sure they cant mark them down too much, since they arent that expensive like the Rotora brakes or Turbos. we should try getting the really expensive stuff cheapers, not the things that cost ~$100

[Delox]

why are people voting on floor mats, im sure they cant mark them down too much, since they arent that expensive like the Rotora brakes or Turbos. we should try getting the really expensive stuff cheapers, not the things that cost ~$100
I agree that floormats may not be a GB worthy item, however its more economical to allow people to decide on their own.

The rotoras are like $3k+ (off the top of my head, I could be wrong) so the likelihood of a lot of those selling even when priced lower is low.

[99specZ32]

nice, looks like ill be picking up pistons and rods next month :D


and yeah the floor mats are under 90 bucks already lol i was thinking do we really need a discount.

if the z1 13 inch rotor upgrade and pistons/rods win i might have to get both though

and the rotoras fropnt and rear kit is 4400 bucks

[Optima]

The pistons come with rings correct?

[99specZ32]

The pistons come with rings correct?


yep the wiseco kits come with rings and wrist pins

[omegaboost]

and the rotoras fropnt and rear kit is 4400 bucks
actually theyre 3900$ on 300zxclubstore. so if they would have a group buy on those which are already 3900, then if theyd go for around 3700 or so, I'll have to loan from the bank...:P. I already have a brake upgrade which is brand new but I wouldnt be able to get over those rotoras. I mean theyre 14" not 13", 14!!!!

[omegaboost]

btw no group buy on stillen swaybars?

[Optima]

actually theyre 3900$ on 300zxclubstore. so if they would have a group buy on those which are already 3900, then if theyd go for around 3700 or so, I'll have to loan from the bank...:P. I already have a brake upgrade which is brand new but I wouldnt be able to get over those rotoras. I mean theyre 14" not 13", 14!!!!

Do you really think $3000 and 1 inch will make that big of a difference?

Search for big brake kits here on 3ZC. We had a big discussion on this. Unless you are autocrossing your Z, it's damn near pointless...

[Optima]

yep the wiseco kits come with rings and wrist pins

What about Rod Bolts?

[omegaboost]

Do you really think $3000 and 1 inch will make that big of a difference?

Search for big brake kits here on 3ZC. We had a big discussion on this. Unless you are autocrossing your Z, it's damn near pointless...
well most 13" BBK goes to around that price for a set of front/rear and im talking about a real BBK not rotor adapter. I know stoptech 13" BBK for both front/rear 4pot/2pot go for around 3800$ so at 3900$ for 6 pot/4 pot 14" all round, its a deal.

As for the price, well, if ppl could spend over 10K$ on engine mods then 3900$ isnt that bad for brakes, especially since brakes adds more security while adding power alone is only gonna cause a bigger accident:P.

+looks good :)

Edit: oh ya btw I'll be doing track days. but then again, 18" tires for track :( .

[tmv]

WHAT!?!?
No choice for injectors!!


I am with you here. I'll wait till May and see if I can vote for injectors again.

[Kenn]

What about Rod Bolts?

Sold seperate

[Optima]

Sold seperate
So do factory sized rod bolts fit the eagle rods?

[Ali300zx]

What about Rod Bolts?
http://www.300zxclub.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=51 0_519&products_id=2750&osCsid=38a7c60c71d3ad320c 1d3982002c0f71

[99specZ32]

actually theyre 3900$ on 300zxclubstore. so if they would have a group buy on those which are already 3900, then if theyd go for around 3700 or so, I'll have to loan from the bank...:P. I already have a brake upgrade which is brand new but I wouldnt be able to get over those rotoras. I mean theyre 14" not 13", 14!!!!


hmm well i didnt check the store price that is a pretty big difference

but yeah no offense but I'd consider you pretty foolish for doing so.

considering you have an upgrade already and are just willing to spend almost 4000 dollars to upgrade them again to something that is completly overkill.

unless ofcourse your car is a fullout track car and that's it's only purpose then it wouldn';t be foolish. but for a street car, those brakes are totally a waste of money

way more brake than you would ever need for the street

and damn 8 people vote for a group buy price on mats? they are 88 bucks as it is guys.... I'd personally try and take advantage of some financial savings on something that would cost a little more.

[Delox]

Hmm, I think my next upgrade will be brakes, but unless the z1 13" kit was at a really great price, I think I'll find a cheaper route elsewhere

[Optima]

Hmm, I think my next upgrade will be brakes, but unless the z1 13" kit was at a really great price, I think I'll find a cheaper route elsewhere

Since Z1 makes the big brake kit/rotors, there is a ton of mark up. It's the same thing with all "store brand/non-mainstream" products

Take Best Buy for example (I used to work there). Their store brand "Rocket Fish" HDMI cable is $100 bucks. Actual cost to Best Buy was $3.50.. Talk about price gouging... :rolleyes:

The same goes for Z1 and all other performance part suppliers.

Look at the $200 short shifter from a while back, they took 70 bucks off that.

Almost 50% off... You don't think Z1 would take a loss? They still made some profit...

And the Z1 ICs were $200 off with free shipping. So another 25-30%

We can all see the markup Z1 has on the products with their name on them...

What makes you think the Z1 big brake kit will be any different?

Russell Floyd doesn't build 1000+ HP Verts with his pocket change from Burger King...

It's simple business man. Supply and Demand. They have the supply, we have the demand, and they are making a killer profit. Especially on Turbo setups and exhaust systems.

From a business stand point, it's ingenious. From a consumer standpoint, we're broke as hell. :chair:

They (Z1, AMZ, Concept, 3ZC) are still making a profit on us, even though we are receiving a discount.

I'm not complaining about the prices by no means, in fact, I'm ecstatic that we receive a discount at all. I'm just pointing out that we are all a little blind to the corporate facade of "Always put the customer first"...

Just my .02 cents...

[ARA300ZX]

i have the 13" 350Z track rotors and SPL brake lines. thats a pretty basic upgrade step up from stock. i guess in comparison to turbo upgrades, thats equivalent to sport 500s from stock.
Boy i would love to have 14" brakes all around one day.
call me what you want, but i rather save a few hundred bucks on a product rather than a few hundred pennies. i am no millionaire, and i know what hard work and saving money is all about. but if you cant even afford to pay regular price for the floor mats, ~$90, then i question if you should even own a 300ZX at this point because regular maintainance is A LOT, and if you plan on upgrading your Z with QUALITY parts, you better take a look at you goals and budget before hand.

[joker_x3]

i have the 13" 350Z track rotors and SPL brake lines. thats a pretty basic upgrade step up from stock. i guess in comparison to turbo upgrades, thats equivalent to sport 500s from stock.
Boy i would love to have 14" brakes all around one day.
call me what you want, but i rather save a few hundred bucks on a product rather than a few hundred pennies. i am no millionaire, and i know what hard work and saving money is all about. but if you cant even afford to pay regular price for the floor mats, ~$90, then i question if you should even own a 300ZX at this point because regular maintainance is A LOT, and if you plan on upgrading your Z with QUALITY parts, you better take a look at you goals and budget before hand.

Or...MAYBE...some people just need floormats!

For those talking smack about the people voting for floormats..get over it. Not everyone wants to pay 90$ for floor mats. If you want to go and buy an oil cap for $300 then go ahead, but talking down on people that want discounts on things THEY prefer is retarded and immature.

[ARA300ZX]

im not talking down on anyone, so i dont kno why you are taking it so personal. this is a public forum and we are allowed to voice our opinion.
if you dont want to pay $90 for floor mats, or if you need floor mats SO bad, you can always go to autozone and get a set of universal floor mats for ~$30.
if the product is $100 or less, i dont think it should even be in the monthly poll.
cant wait til the Stillen Sway Bars come back (hopefully next month)

[Twindragon]

Since Z1 makes the big brake kit/rotors, there is a ton of mark up. It's the same thing with all "store brand/non-mainstream" products

Take Best Buy for example (I used to work there). Their store brand "Rocket Fish" HDMI cable is $100 bucks. Actual cost to Best Buy was $3.50.. Talk about price gouging... :rolleyes:

The same goes for Z1 and all other performance part suppliers.

Look at the $200 short shifter from a while back, they took 70 bucks off that.

Almost 50% off... You don't think Z1 would take a loss? They still made some profit...

And the Z1 ICs were $200 off with free shipping. So another 25-30%

We can all see the markup Z1 has on the products with their name on them...

What makes you think the Z1 big brake kit will be any different?

Russell Floyd doesn't build 1000+ HP Verts with his pocket change from Burger King...

It's simple business man. Supply and Demand. They have the supply, we have the demand, and they are making a killer profit. Especially on Turbo setups and exhaust systems.

From a business stand point, it's ingenious. From a consumer standpoint, we're broke as hell. :chair:

They (Z1, AMZ, Concept, 3ZC) are still making a profit on us, even though we are receiving a discount.

I'm not complaining about the prices by no means, in fact, I'm ecstatic that we receive a discount at all. I'm just pointing out that we are all a little blind to the corporate facade of "Always put the customer first"...

Just my .02 cents...


VERY well put. To put it simply the best "bang for your buck" is going to be Z1 and maybe AMS products. That's why you wont see a huge price drop on something like let's say Tien Coilovers.

[JeremyDeal]

I bought the Rotora 6 piston front/4 piston rear & 14" 2-piece big brake kit almost a year ago (see my garage). I can tell you guys from experience these things are not great for everyday driving for one reason only ...They squeal crazy LOUD even with the "street pads" that come in the kit unless you are getting on the brakes hard.

However, they perform as you expect and look AMAZING IMHO ...it makes me smile everytime I see them, so if it came down to it I'd buy them all over again, now if I could just stop that squeelin...

----------- I want injectors!!!! -----------

[Delox]

I'm not complaining about the prices by no means, in fact, I'm ecstatic that we receive a discount at all. I'm just pointing out that we are all a little blind to the corporate facade of "Always put the customer first"...


who didn't know this?

what I meant by my comment was unless the z1 13 inch kit somehow managed to become much cheaper than expected (cheaper than going a much more likely cheaper route of parting it together myself) then I'd maybe consider it.

I always try to look at package deals and then find the parts myself whenever possible. I did buy in on the gt675rs kit just because of time restraints.

I am also not complaining, just shedding some insight.

[dirt114]

Or...MAYBE...some people just need floormats!

For those talking smack about the people voting for floormats..get over it. Not everyone wants to pay 90$ for floor mats. If you want to go and buy an oil cap for $300 then go ahead, but talking down on people that want discounts on things THEY prefer is retarded and immature.
+1
and i voted for floor mats too. sorry, but i dont have turbos and i already have the pulley and i just ordered brakes the other day. and i think it'd be nice to be able to spend less than 90 bucks to be able to buy my dad some floor mats for his old '90 2+2. there are ppl out there who dont put the price of the car into it every year. i may be one of the ppl who do, but my dad isnt(he has one too) and i dont think ppl like him shouldnt be able to get a discount because hes not a big spender.

[JeremyDeal]

...Staples has thumb tacks on sale for %20 off...

[Optima]

who didn't know this?

what I meant by my comment was unless the z1 13 inch kit somehow managed to become much cheaper than expected (cheaper than going a much more likely cheaper route of parting it together myself) then I'd maybe consider it.

I always try to look at package deals and then find the parts myself whenever possible. I did buy in on the gt675rs kit just because of time restraints.

I am also not complaining, just shedding some insight.

I wasn't bitching at you Delox, I was simply pointing out that all Z1 Name Brand products, as well as other store name products (Ex: AMS Radiator, Powertrix Adjustables, etc.)

By cutting out the middle man, they can mark up the cost because they deal straight with the manufactur, and can charge as much as name brand products. Thereby making a huge profit margin.

I think we can expect to see the same trend if the Z1 Big Brake Kit Wins.

[HicasZ]

I am just glad to see that they are offering items that can be useful to enthusiasts whether it be floormats or turbos...yes there are some of us out there that do not have disposable income...but I would like to restate the obvious. at least we see some type of incentive/kickback coming from these suppliers/distributors for a specific vehicle that happens to be in the range of 12 to 18 years old and have the availability to get items equal to and above oem quality at a lower price then what Nissan can provide...I would say that the markup on some OEM parts are outrageous in comparison to what a privately own business can come up with. on top of the R&D that goes into some of these aftermarket/alternate products.
that is how I look at the whole idea of a group buy, I just hope one of these times I have the disposable income to afford an item that I happen to need concurrently with when it is offered at a discounted price.

[Optima]

I am just glad to see that they are offering items that can be useful to enthusiasts whether it be floormats or turbos...yes there are some of us out there that do not have disposable income...but I would like to restate the obvious. at least we see some type of incentive/kickback coming from these suppliers/distributors for a specific vehicle that happens to be in the range of 12 to 18 years old and have the availability to get items equal to and above oem quality at a lower price then what Nissan can provide...I would say that the markup on some OEM parts are outrageous in comparison to what a privately own business can come up with. on top of the R&D that goes into some of these aftermarket/alternate products.
that is how I look at the whole idea of a group buy, I just hope one of these times I have the disposable income to afford an item that I happen to need concurrently with when it is offered at a discounted price.

2nd on the income thing...

Every month I have wanted to pick up one of the major group buy items, but have unfortunatley not had the money...

[TnkrsToyCo]

Don't feel bad, I've had to sit out for the last month. Have to re-stabilize my finances. Then I had to order a couple EFI harnesses this week. They weren't on any group buy either.
I'm collecting parts for another build and spare parts for my vert.

[joker_x3]

Ive dumped tons...TONS of money on my Z over the past few months, so those wanna-be cool "staples" comments have no effect on me. If people want a discount on 100$ floor mats instead of 200-300$ off of a $3000 break kit for WHATEVER reason...then oh well. No need to question anyone if they are in the right hobby. :violin:

[99specZ32]

Ive dumped tons...TONS of money on my Z over the past few months, so those wanna-be cool "staples" comments have no effect on me. If people want a discount on 100$ floor mats instead of 200-300$ off of a $3000 break kit for WHATEVER reason...then oh well. No need to question anyone if they are in the right hobby. :violin:


well i wasnt really making fun of anyone since i didnt make any staples jokes or anything like that

but I still stand by what I said and that it's a waste of an opportunity to save more money on something that would otherwise be more expensive, I'd try and save cash on something that would have an impact on my wallet not something that is less than my weekly lunch money.

BUT I suppose if someone really really wants mats or has no use for the other options its makes sense.


I went through the list myself and this was my reasoning for and against each one

AMS manifolds - anything AMS I deal with Vuk directly so no need

eagle rods and wisecos - I voted for (but after talkign with Vuk today I may go with another option)

z1 13 inch rotor upgrade - also nice it was my 2nd choice (I was superpissed that i spent about 400 bucks replacing my front brakes with stock sized ebc parts when that kit is less)

rotora kit - insane cost, way beyond overkill for a street car

ams pulley - I have it and deal with Vuk in person

z1 intake - i have an intake, I would probably vote for dualz though if it were an option

subframe spacers- Im putting in AMS aluminum subframe bushings

z1 silicone rad hoses - not expensive enough to justify getting a discount on when the pistons and rods seemed like the best idea to me

725 turbos - would be awesome but i dont have the money to drop on them next month :mad:

floor mats - not expensive enough again AND they dont fit my car because it's rhd


but yeah we all have different reasonings for everything as you can see my reasoning for why i did or did not choose each thing

just clearing up that i wasnt making fun of anyone

[joker_x3]

Well I just bought an engine not to long ago and am about to rebuild the old one so im voting for the pistons and rods either way....but I would love for the mats to win so that I could throw that in with my pistons order.

For me though...when I start spending money on things that are over 1, 2, 3 grand...I stop caring about saving 2-300 bucks. I care more about little things like mats, bov's, hardpipes, doolz intake, silicone hoses that prices are a bit high for what items they are.

[DjTalya]

I LOVE THIS THREAD got the turbos and got the maifolds ^_^! go PULLEYS NEXT!!!!

[dirt114]

^wish i had turbos :sad:

[ARA300ZX]

maybe they should have all performance parts one month (suspension parts, turbos, injectorsm exhaust components), then all accessories then next month (mats, shift knob, anything else under $100) and alternate so everyone is happy

[JeremyDeal]

...when I start spending money on things that are over 1, 2, 3 grand...I stop caring about saving 2-300 bucks. I care more about little things like mats, bov's, hardpipes, doolz intake, silicone hoses that prices are a bit high for what items they are.

That makes no sense. You care more about saving $15 on a floor mat than $300 on a more expensive part?

For he record I agree with the side saying these group buys should be for anything more expensive than "X" number of dollars. But we have two group buys people! Just vote for what you want - if you get it then great, if not there is always next month. The only "change" I would like to see is that the third highest voted item be carried over into the next months group buy poll.

And I wasnt "making fun" of anyone with my Staples comment, if I were I would have quoted the person. Just making a point that the cheaper the item is worth the less you care about how many pennies you saved. Bad example? Maybe.

[Delox]

I would like to see is that the third highest voted item be carried over into the next months group buy poll.
Business wise that doesn't necessarily make the most sense. If they know the demand is high for the item and people need it (injectors are a need, floor mats are a want, relatively) then regardless of the price drop, people are going to eventually buy the item.

[omegaboost]

Now that I think about it, I hope there gonna have a hks hiper exhaust vote next month.

[pionkej]

I don't understand some of the less expensive items either. Maybe I will get to the point that ALL I need is some new floor mats or a red stiched shift/e-brake boot, so $10-15 off is great. But to me, being able to get injectors/intercoolers/throttle bodies/turbos/manifolds/pistons & rods/brake kits...etc is the way to go. I don't see how someone would rather save $10-15 than $500-750 off a $2000.00 order.

But if they put it up there, and the majority of the public wants a discount on $100 floor mats and $50 subframe spacers...than majority rules....stupidly.

[Cade(PA)]

I don't understand some of the less expensive items either.


It makes perfect sense.

They started out by listing a large number of expensive items, in hope that we would jump on the group buy prices and snatch them up. These are the items we told them we wanted, and so they delivered.

However, I am assuming that a small number of us, relative to the number that voted, actually followed through with these purchases.

By offering expensive items at the deep discount of Group Buy prices without any type of commitment on our end, the administrators of the 3ZC store opened themselves up to a large threat.

Sure, we may all want the Tein coilovers or some new injectors - hell, I know I do. However, how many people do you think actually purchased the expensive "Group Buy" items each month?

IMO, the guys running this are trying a new angle here. They have intentionally populated this month's list with a large number of inexpensive items (<$500). They want to see if the disparity between the number of votes and number of purchases will still exist for more affordable items. If it does, then they might be screwed. If not, then we will have proven to these guys that we are "all talk".

Not trying to get anyone heated over this, not attacking anybody. I've voted and not purchased, too - I just couldn't afford it at the time.


I'll bet that these guys can still pull in the same (if not more) amount of profits from "Group Buy" sales of these less expensive items versus the high-end, >$1,000 goodies on pure volume of sales.


Just my $0.02, feel free to comment. ...*puts on flame suit*

[Trbo]

I'd like to see a GB on a 120k Kit...

[Cade(PA)]

I'd like to see a GB on a 120k Kit...


BIIIIIIIIG 2nd to that.

[joker_x3]

It makes perfect sense.

They started out by listing a large number of expensive items, in hope that we would jump on the group buy prices and snatch them up. These are the items we told them we wanted, and so they delivered.

However, I am assuming that a small number of us, relative to the number that voted, actually followed through with these purchases.

By offering expensive items at the deep discount of Group Buy prices without any type of commitment on our end, the administrators of the 3ZC store opened themselves up to a large threat.

Sure, we may all want the Tein coilovers or some new injectors - hell, I know I do. However, how many people do you think actually purchased the expensive "Group Buy" items each month?

IMO, the guys running this are trying a new angle here. They have intentionally populated this month's list with a large number of inexpensive items (<$500). They want to see if the disparity between the number of votes and number of purchases will still exist for more affordable items. If it does, then they might be screwed. If not, then we will have proven to these guys that we are "all talk".

Not trying to get anyone heated over this, not attacking anybody. I've voted and not purchased, too - I just couldn't afford it at the time.


I'll bet that these guys can still pull in the same (if not more) amount of profits from "Group Buy" sales of these less expensive items versus the high-end, >$1,000 goodies on pure volume of sales.


Just my $0.02, feel free to comment. ...*puts on flame suit*

+1

and for the other guy...saving $500-$700 off of a $2000 purchase? HAHAHAHA I would like to see that. The Turbos that were for sale the other month went from 2700 to what? 2500? OMFG!! go jizz over it.

Like the guy above me said, some people have other things to worry about than a 3 grand brake kit, if you have money to throw around like that every month good for you...but dont cry at the fact that some people have bigger fish to fry and want a discount on an item they can really easily afford and not "want". :violin:

[Zya8187]

The Turbos that were for sale the other month went from 2700 to what? 2500?

Pretty sure they included the 5 bolt down pipes also which is like another 400 bucks

[joker_x3]

Pretty sure they included the 5 bolt down pipes also which is like another 400 bucks

Im pretty sure you saved 200-300 on the group buy from the store price altogether. Anything near that is not worth me loading up my credit card. :moon:

[Zya8187]

Anything near that is not worth me loading up my credit card. :moon:

I don't have a credit card. My mods are always paid for. I won't mod a car on credit that is just stupid

[joker_x3]

I don't have a credit card. My mods are always paid for. I won't mod a car on credit that is just stupid

One of the most retarded comments ive ever read here, thank you.

[300ZX_2+2_TT]

One of the most retarded comments ive ever read here, thank you.

Why is that retarded? Sounds like a smart idea to me, easy way to stay out of debt

[joker_x3]

Why is that retarded? Sounds like a smart idea to me, easy way to stay out of debt

If your smart and diciplined..the only thing you are doing is boosting your credit score. Ive got excellent credit...im 21 and buying a house next year. The only thing im in debt for is my other car...other than that ive got a card that I can spend up to 5 grand on whatever I want and have a year to pay it off before any interest kicks in. +1 for credit. Like I said though..its not for everyone..the only reason I do it is to make myself look good to banks :violin:

[TnkrsToyCo]

I use my card to purchase, but it's paid off monthly.

Why don't we all just be happy with what we have offered to us and what we end up saving in the long run. No matter how big or small. There's no need to debate the why's and why nots every month.

[300ZX_2+2_TT]

If your smart and diciplined..the only thing you are doing is boosting your credit score. Ive got excellent credit...im 21 and buying a house next year. The only thing im in debt for is my other car...other than that ive got a card that I can spend up to 5 grand on whatever I want and have a year to pay it off before any interest kicks in. +1 for credit. Like I said though..its not for everyone :violin:

Exactly, I just didnt see why it was the most retarded thing you ever heard of. Credit boosting is the way to go, but if you know you will over spend, then saving is better

[joker_x3]

Exactly, I just didnt see why it was the most retarded thing you ever heard of. Credit boosting is the way to go, but if you know you will over spend, then saving is better

Because he said buying mods for a car on credit is just "stupid"

[joker_x3]

I use my card to purchase, but it's paid off monthly.

Why don't we all just be happy with what we have offered to us and what we end up saving in the long run. No matter how big or small. There's no need to debate the why's and why nots every month.

+1

[Delox]

I just signed up for a credit card because my debit card is implementing a fee. Also I need to build up credit and I easily will pay off my bill each month and have not fees because of it.

anyway, our microcosm economy decides what it wants. No complaints from me.

[pionkej]

+1

and for the other guy...saving $500-$700 off of a $2000 purchase? HAHAHAHA I would like to see that. The Turbos that were for sale the other month went from 2700 to what? 2500? OMFG!! go jizz over it.

Like the guy above me said, some people have other things to worry about than a 3 grand brake kit, if you have money to throw around like that every month good for you...but dont cry at the fact that some people have bigger fish to fry and want a discount on an item they can really easily afford and not "want". :violin:

You are right, $500 off a $2000 purchase is not set in stone, but discounts can be had. The JSPEC fascia being sold was about $200 off, but I can tell you that price is barely above cost. I know because I got one through connections at Nissan North America for cost+10%. It all depends on markup too. The Z1 intercoolers and throttle bodies had a much higher % drop than the tein coilovers, and I would assume the same for the NISMO injectors (they would have a much smaller drop). Even if they did drop big time, many people would still make money on all the ecu upgrades needed. The AMS manifolds are already $300 less than what the AMS site sells them for, so if they won in a group buy, you could potentially get them for 1/2 price of retail. $500 for $1000 manifolds is a much better deal to be had than $50 for $100 floor mats (even if they are both at 50% off).

If you put $5,000 on your credit card for mods at one time, than that $200-500 dollars saved on a big ticket item, would pay for your full price floor mats and underdrive pulley kit. See where I am going with this?

That being said, I also agree with everyone above about this being a great deal no matter what item it is. I am just all for making my money stretch, and if 3ZC is going to be so generous to offer a discount on two items of our choosing each month, I will try and have my money ready for the months the big ticket items I need win out.

[91300zxttkid]

come on people, floormats? geshh
-George

[phantomz]

Credit rocks. Buy all my stuff on credit but Major buys for the car go on brand new credit cards with 0 finance for 6 months to a year. Pay small stuff off completely . Damn thieves, sorry "bankers" will make no money off of me. Invest the money in a high yielding saving (4.00APY) or stocks. Then a month before they charge finances pay it all off. Damn thieves will make no money off of me. Age 22, Junior in college. great credit no student loans :rock:

will be pissed if silicon hose win just bought mine 2 weeks ago. with Defi boost guage, A piller, and random tech cats.

[91300zxttkid]

^^^What I do =)
-George

[ARA300ZX]

damn guys, i wish the Z1/rotora were combined. we'd be in second place right now

[Zya8187]

wow, I forgot about this. Sorry for the added drama to this thread.

Buying parts/mods for your car on your credit card and paying it off monthly (like steve said) is fine but I have a couple of buddies that are in debt because they just charge it.

..... not worth me loading up my credit card.
The way this sounded just made it sound like you were just going to charge abunch of stuff and have a very high bill, which is stupid, thus my comment. No need to get offened man.

[awesomekasim]

lol looks like lots of people are holding their vote till the near end. Im expecting a big upset lol

[JeremyDeal]

Voted for AMS manafolds. They are a perfect match for last months GT675's and will most likely be one of the best group buys thus far!!!

[Z_Freak]

Go floor mats!!!!

[deebz]

Come onnnnnn.... more people must want manifolds!

[machewcoy]

Go floor mats!!!!

heck ya! c'mon, floor mats!!!

[Z_Freak]

Knock it off ARA300ZX. This is a place to vote for group buys, not to talk about the quality of the items. Plus, the whole AMS has been beaten to death, leave it alone. This is your final warning.

[Zya8187]

no one else flow tested the AMS manifolds, so AMS could make up whatever stat they want. i know i posted the MS manifolds. they are superior quality and he didnt copy anyones design. just my 2 cents..

No need to start this again. If you like MS then go with it. enough said. AMS is a paying sponser here and they have good products so you should just keep your OPINION!!! to yourself.

[ARA300ZX]

No need to start this again. If you like MS then go with it. enough said. AMS is a paying sponser here and they have good products so you should just keep your OPINION!!! to yourself.


Public forum buddy

[Zya8187]

Public forum buddy

Yes it is a public forum but it's your OPINION that MS has "superior quality" than AMS. You don't have fact of that. I wasn't saying don't express your opinion I was saying keep your opinions as opinions not incorrect facts. Understand what I was saying now ?

[Performance_Addict]

I think AMS is superior and I just ordered a set. : )

[300ZX_2+2_TT]

my vote is up for sale this month since I wont have money to purchase anything
any takers?

[ARA300ZX]

Yes it is a public forum but it's your OPINION that MS has "superior quality" than AMS. You don't have fact of that. I wasn't saying don't express your opinion I was saying keep your opinions as opinions not incorrect facts. Understand what I was saying now ?

yes sir. im not going to debate this topic as we all have our own opinions, budget, and intelligence to buy what we want for our Zs. some decisions maybe smarter than others, and some will learn by their mistakes...

[Desert Dog]

yes sir. im not going to debate this topic as we all have our own opinions, budget, and intelligence to buy what we want for our Zs. some decisions maybe smarter than others, and some will learn by their mistakes...
And some should keep their opinions to themselves, after airing it incessantly.

ESPECIALLY if they want to continue to participate in a "public forum"...

[TnkrsToyCo]

Thank you Dog, my feelings exactly. Any more horse shit and we'll have one less person involved in the group buy.
I deleted your first smartassed post concerning the manifolds, hoping you'd have enough sense to realize this isn't the time nor the place for that. You have been warned twice by 2 different mods. One more time and you are gone. Drop it now.
Thank you.

[canyoncarver]

Hmmm, four people here with itchy ban fingers. :D

[ARA300ZX]

ok i get the point, sorry for making an opinion. you guys need to lighten up a little on the banning, its not that serious. i've been part of this forum for a very long time now, mostly just read up on things, but i hope this forum isnt about favorites or if a person has a different setup they arent liked because of it, thats just childish.

i dont understand why i get threated to get banned on an opinion/information towards AMS, but when others make an opinion/statements on AshSpec, AMZ, or any other vendors, nothing happends. i know the whole Manifold debate is a touchy subject for some, but to ban on an opinion is a little extreme, no?

[Z_Freak]

ok i get the point, sorry for making an opinion. you guys need to lighten up a little on the banning, its not that serious. i've been part of this forum for a very long time now, mostly just read up on things, but i hope this forum isnt about favorites or if a person has a different setup they arent liked because of it, thats just childish.

i dont understand why i get threated to get banned on an opinion/information towards AMS, but when others make an opinion/statements on AshSpec, AMZ, or any other vendors, nothing happends. i know the whole Manifold debate is a touchy subject for some, but to ban on an opinion is a little extreme, no?

You would get banned because the whole manifold has been beaten to death and we have warned you several times to lay off. So end it, now.

[ARA300ZX]

my bad, lets get back to the polls, lets got Rotora!!

[Desert Dog]

ok i get the point, sorry for making an opinion. you guys need to lighten up a little on the banning, its not that serious. i've been part of this forum for a very long time now, mostly just read up on things, but i hope this forum isnt about favorites or if a person has a different setup they arent liked because of it, thats just childish.

i dont understand why i get threated to get banned on an opinion/information towards AMS, but when others make an opinion/statements on AshSpec, AMZ, or any other vendors, nothing happends. i know the whole Manifold debate is a touchy subject for some, but to ban on an opinion is a little extreme, no?
No but a ban on someone because they WILL NOT LET IT GO, is very reasonable.

Besides, this is a thread about what you want for a group buy, not your opinion on what manifold, or any part is better than another.

Are you starting to see the light, my friend?

[TnkrsToyCo]

hoping you'd have enough sense to realize this isn't the time nor the place for that.

Actually we do appreciate your interest in what we are doing for the community with our "Monthly Group Buys" would hope more of your friends would come take advantage of the buys.
Thank you.

[treese88]

More votes for Z1 13" bbk!! Why I wasted my vote on something else eludes me.

[Optima]

I need the weisco piston/eagle rod combo for my rebuild... please help a TT swapper out!

[ARA300ZX]

I need the weisco piston/eagle rod combo for my rebuild... please help a TT swapper out!

looks like thats going to win, whats the point of going fast if you cant stop... i hope if the Rotoras dont win this month, they'll be on next month!

[Optima]

looks like thats going to win, whats the point of going fast if you cant stop... i hope if the Rotoras dont win this month, they'll be on next month!

You don't need brakes to make a car operate properly...

Although HIGHLY UNSAFE, you don't NEED brakes for the car to work.

Pistons on the other hand....

[machewcoy]

but you also need floormats!! c'mon, floorrrrmatsss!!!!! i don't have any.. help a broke college student keep *what's left of his carpet* clean!!!!!! floorrrmatttsss!!!!!

[tya]

looks like thats going to win, whats the point of going fast if you cant stop... i hope if the Rotoras dont win this month, they'll be on next month!


you sure dont need a 3000 dollar brake kit to stop fast...however, if you have a 700+ rwhp Z you best believe for peace of mind pistons and rods would sure help a lot!

[myblue92maxima]

floormats!

[ARA300ZX]

but you also need floormats!! c'mon, floorrrrmatsss!!!!! i don't have any.. help a broke college student keep *what's left of his carpet* clean!!!!!! floorrrmatttsss!!!!!


go to strauss or autozone and get universal ones. thats what i did when i was a broke college student.

then eventually i got Z floor mats from Coz. i didnt want to ruin them, so i bought another set of universal ones for a 4 door car. i placed the little mats where my feet dig into the floor, then i put the other universal on top of that one. so my Z mat never gets worn. i take the universal ones off when i go to Z meets.

[TnkrsToyCo]

I always keep a set of cheap mats over my show mats. Even in the 350 I keep a set of cheapies over the 350AE's.
In the vert I have my old ones and keep the new ones in the trunk.
I do have several over 32's that need good mats.
Could be the only thing I can afford this month.

[JeremyDeal]

Ack! The manifold has fallen behind since I last looked, comon guys, don't you want somthing nice to bolt those fancy 675's to we bought last month? :-)

[TnkrsToyCo]

Yeah and I need a set of the mani's for the next build. Only can't this month.

[plower]

Need manifolds to go with the turbo's from last month. Floormats can wait!

[Optima]

Comon Pistons/Rods!!!!!!

[JON_90zx]

Optima, just to help you out, I did it again this month.

When can something reasonably priced yet proven for each platform be introduced into the mix? Haha.

Oh yeah, is there a way to reset this thread at the beginning of each month, so it's not covering everything?

[ARA300ZX]

Optima, just to help you out, I did it again this month.

When can something reasonably priced yet proven for each platform be introduced into the mix? Haha.

Oh yeah, is there a way to reset this thread at the beginning of each month, so it's not covering everything?

seriously, we dont need 20+ pages. im sure they can delete the first 15 pages at least..

[JeremyDeal]

Come on manifolds - Every time they look like they are pulling into second somthing zips by them! :-)

I got a chance to read though all the posts I missed - I hope members aren't voting just to throw the poll without plans of actually buying the item. Read a few that said they were voting for other members.

[SeanK]

Oh yeah, is there a way to reset this thread at the beginning of each month, so it's not covering everything?

seriously, we dont need 20+ pages. im sure they can delete the first 15 pages at least..
It'd be nice if a new thread was started for each month's poll, & the poll 2 months back was locked. That way people would focus on the current month in one topic, and can still discuss the previous month's poll in another. Just a thought.

[plower]

Bring on the manifolds. Please don't make me wait another month!

[Ali300zx]

dang close 3 way race again. a fairly priced manifold would be very tempting.

[JeremyDeal]

...what happens if there is a tie???

[TnkrsToyCo]

We'll flip a coin.

[machewcoy]

oh come on!!! give me my darn floor mats! you need 'em, right people?!?!! :(

[Jay Gadsby]

Who is carrying these floor mats? I want to see the color of the "Charcoal" floor mats... might match better with my trim....

[TnkrsToyCo]

http://www.300zxclub.com/showthread.php?t=114617

[JeremyDeal]

Smell that? Smells like a new set of manifolds on their way to my front door! Woohoo, keeping my fingers crossed...

[livin4boost]

OH GOD grant the rod/piston combo a win and a GREAT DEAL! I'm going to start setting money aside now!

[2nboostedzx]

Hmm, those floormats look familiar... oh yea, they are in my car! :D Go rod/piston combo!

[Jay Gadsby]

Those are black, there is no charcoal about em.... Manis it is!

[300znickz32]

evryone change ur vote to turbos

[JeremyDeal]

evryone change ur vote to turbos

The manifolds are a perfect fit for those turbos Nick. :-)

[91300zxttkid]

hmmm I wonder how good the spool will be with AMS mani's and stock turbos with a full 3 inch exhaust? =) hehe
-George

[Optima]

Hang in there Pistons/Rods!!!!!

[born2race94]

ahhh come on guys, vote for the 13" rotor kit... I really need new front brakes!!!

[Optima]

Optima, just to help you out, I did it again this month.

When can something reasonably priced yet proven for each platform be introduced into the mix? Haha.

Oh yeah, is there a way to reset this thread at the beginning of each month, so it's not covering everything?

Thanks Man!

The reasonably priced all platform item was the AMS Pulley that was here a couple months ago. It was like 90 bucks.

But I need these pistons for my rebuild.

[SeanK]

hmmm I wonder how good the spool will be with AMS mani's and stock turbos with a full 3 inch exhaust?Eeevvviillll (with pinky raised to mouth)

and :sad: on the floormats. Maybe something like silicone turbo hoses next month for a cheaper GB option.

[Optima]

Yay for pistons and rods!!!!

[ARA300ZX]

lets bring back Still Sway Bars!!!!!

[HoTTNiXX]

Yeah! I can get some new front brakes!

[Cade(PA)]

Yeah! I can get some new front brakes!


How do you figure? It lost by five votes...

I know, I'd love to get my hands on those, too.

[Optima]

How do you figure? It lost by five votes...

I know, I'd love to get my hands on those, too.

Look in the store, apparently, there are 3 group buys this month.

[ARA300ZX]

new month, GB winners are already on the store page..lets see the new options to vote for!!

[Cade(PA)]

I spoke too soon...score.

[czh5005]

new month, GB winners are already on the store page..lets see the new options to vote for!!

+1

Come on 300 degree fuel rails

[91300zxttkid]

Yes! my request for 3 GB's last month was answered!
WOOT!
-George

[deebz]

Very nice price on the AMS manifolds!

[biabia]

Yeah, those mani's are priced nicely.

If i werent so concerned for weight savings, I'd get those Z1 rotors... rather save some weight and spend more for the 2 piece.

[300znickz32]

The manifolds are a perfect fit for those turbos Nick. :-)


everyone change your votes to turbos or manifolds =D

its on

[Optima]

+1

Come on 300 degree fuel rails

We'll see when the new options come out...

[WAGGZ]

C'mon fuel rails!!!!!

[Pilot.P]

Anyone else buying the manifolds?

I am keen to get it cyro treated. There is no option for it...

none of you guys care about the cyro treatment?

[Performance_Addict]

Anyone else buying the manifolds?

I am keen to get it cyro treated. There is no option for it...

none of you guys care about the cyro treatment?

I bought the AMS Mani's from the TT.NET group buy and had them cryo treated and shipped to my door for $799. I also got mine ceramic coated, but did that locally. I will be picking them up Monday. I will have pics, soon. Good buy. I recommend.

[Jay Gadsby]

300 Degree fuel rails would fit nicely into my scheme :)

[91300zxttkid]

come on 615's and 300 degree rails!!
I want 17psi!!!! lol
-George

[czh5005]

Alright, the fuel rail's have some support!

[Optima]

Can we see some new options?

[ARA300ZX]

Can we see some new options?

i know right. we almost lost a week of May already

[Twindragon]

come on 615's and 300 degree rails!!
I want 17psi!!!! lol
-George

F@#$# 615's we need 740's!

[ARA300ZX]

F@#$# 615's we need 740's!

I agree (even tho i have the 740s already, it doesnt matter to me). the 740s would be better set-up for any 5 bolt turbo IMO. they're the same price and you dont have to worry about maxing out the injectors

[JeremyDeal]

WTG!!! I want to give a big thank you to the admns for getting us three great group buys this month! I don't expect it every month, but it really made sense to do it this time, thanks.

For May I too would love some 300 fuel rails w/SS fuel lines and a 740cc inj option!

[N20Z]

Can we see some new options?

Done.

Due to popular demand a new thread has been created for the June 08 Group Buys Poll and to avoid confusion this thread is now being closed. The current Group Buys Poll will be stickied each month here in the 3ZC subforum. Please go here to vote for the June specials : http://www.300zxclub.com/showthread.php?t=126483